Patrick interviews Joy Jamerson, Program Manager at HCAP, on Making Apprenticeship Simpler by exploring the challenges employers face with the current apprenticeship framework, particularly in the healthcare career education landscape. She highlights how forms need to be digitized and apprenticeship needs to speak employers' language.

Chris Ray, Stihl apprenticeship supervisor, breaks down how to make apprenticeship more than simply registration. He focuses on how to fully integrate apprenticeship into an organization -- its policies, objectives, personnel, tracking and alignment -- to truly make apprenticeship simpler and more successful.

Welcome to another instance of our Making Apprenticeship Simpler interviews, where we ask stakeholders from all corners of the apprenticeship sphere how to make apprenticeship simpler. Today, we're thrilled to have our first apprentice join the conversation, Ethan Duquette, an IEC apprentice based in Austin, Texas. Ethan shares his personal journey from high school graduate to embarking on a rewarding apprenticeship in the electrical trade. He highlights the pivotal role of mentorship and the simplicity of the application process, while also discussing the challenges of visibility in apprenticeship opportunities.

Bhavani Arabandi, from the Urban Institute, discusses changing the narrative around college for all as being the top thing that can be done to make apprenticeships simpler.